Three women at the center of Detroit’s Black church community sat down recently with American Black Journal host Stephen Henderson to talk about something many congregations still struggle to say plainly: women in ministry face barriers that their male counterparts simply don’t.
The conversation, part of the ongoing “Black Church in Detroit” series, brought together Rev. Dr. Jessica Ingram, founder of The Woman Difference Collaborative; Monica Anthony, First Lady of Fellowship Chapel; and Rev. Dr. Jacqueline Nelson, senior pastor of Davison Missionary Baptist Church. Together, they laid out a clear picture of the pressures, exclusions, and quiet resilience that define the experience of women leading faith communities in this city.
Building the Collaborative
Rev. Dr. Ingram created The Woman Difference Collaborative with a specific gap in mind. Women in ministry, she explained, often lack the peer networks that male clergy build naturally through denominational structures, fraternal organizations, and the informal relationships that come from being in the majority. The Collaborative addresses that directly, bringing women faith leaders together through conferences and events designed for networking, mutual support, and collective advocacy.
The organization doesn’t stop at spiritual encouragement. It has pushed into civic territory as well. In 2024, the Collaborative held a large gathering to support Kamala Harris’s presidential campaign, positioning Black women faith leaders as a political force with organizational capacity to match. That gathering reflected a broader philosophy embedded in the Collaborative’s work: that advocacy for Black women in ministry extends naturally to advocacy for Black women in all leadership roles.
Rev. Ingram also spoke about a more personal moment that shaped her understanding of the barriers women face in church spaces. She described being denied the opportunity to preach at a church specifically because of her gender. That experience, she made clear, wasn’t an anomaly. It was the kind of institutional exclusion that motivated her to build something women could rely on outside of structures that weren’t built with them in mind.
The Role of First Lady
Monica Anthony’s position at Fellowship Chapel doesn’t carry an official pastoral title, but her role in the congregation is anything but peripheral. As First Lady, she occupies a space that is both highly visible and often poorly defined. She talked openly about how her relationship with congregants has developed over the years and how much of that work happens through presence, consistency, and trust built over time.
Anthony described The Woman Difference Collaborative as providing something she hadn’t fully realized she needed until she found it: a space where women in faith leadership could be honest about their experiences without worrying about judgment. For women who often serve as emotional anchors for entire congregations, having a place to be candid about difficulty, doubt, or exhaustion carries real weight.
The “First Lady” title is common in Black church culture but rarely examined publicly. Anthony’s willingness to speak about the substance of that role and its relationship to broader questions of women’s authority in ministry added a dimension to the conversation that goes beyond formal ordination. Many women in Black churches exercise significant influence and do significant pastoral work under titles that don’t come with institutional recognition or protection.
A Pastor’s Path
Rev. Dr. Jacqueline Nelson became senior pastor of Davison Missionary Baptist Church about a year ago, and she brought to the Henderson conversation a clear-eyed account of what it takes to arrive at that position as a woman in the Baptist tradition.
Her background is in pastoral care, the counseling and support work that keeps congregations functioning through grief, crisis, and transition. That foundation shaped her approach to senior leadership. But her path to the pulpit also ran directly through the gender dynamics that define much of Black Protestant church culture, where debate over whether women should serve as pastors remains active and, in some circles, settled firmly in the negative.
Nelson addressed that directly. There are people, she acknowledged, who do not believe women should serve as senior pastors. That belief is held sincerely by many in the pews and by some in denominational leadership. For a woman who has accepted a senior pastor role, that means navigating the reality that a portion of the broader church community questions the legitimacy of her calling before she has said a single word from the pulpit.
Her willingness to name that dynamic plainly, rather than soften it, was consistent with the tone of the broader conversation. These three women weren’t performing resilience for an audience. They were doing something harder: giving an honest account of the institutional conditions they operate within.
What the Barriers Actually Look Like
The conversation with Henderson made clear that the challenges facing women in Detroit’s Black church community aren’t abstract. They show up in specific, recurring ways.
Being passed over for preaching opportunities based on gender. Occupying influential roles that lack formal recognition. Building networks from scratch because existing structures weren’t designed to include you. Arriving at senior leadership while knowing that your authority will be questioned on theological grounds by people who have decided the question before meeting you.
These aren’t complaints. They’re operating conditions. And the fact that the “Black Church in Detroit” series is examining them publicly matters in a city where the church remains one of the most significant civic institutions. Black churches in Detroit have historically anchored neighborhoods, organized political participation, provided social services, and shaped community identity. Who leads those institutions, and under what conditions, is a question with consequences that extend well beyond Sunday morning.
The Collaborative as Infrastructure
One of the clearer takeaways from the Henderson conversation is that The Woman Difference Collaborative functions less like a support group and more like infrastructure. It provides what institutions often fail to provide for women: peer access, advocacy capacity, and a platform for collective action.
The 2024 political gathering around the Harris campaign was a demonstration of that capacity. Assembling a large group of Black women faith leaders around a civic cause requires organizational trust that takes years to build. The Collaborative had it. That’s not incidental to its mission. It’s the point.
Rev. Ingram built something that doesn’t depend on existing male-dominated denominational structures to function. It operates alongside those structures, draws women from across them, and advocates for women who are trying to lead within them. That design reflects a clear-eyed understanding of how change actually happens in institutions that are resistant to it: sometimes you build parallel infrastructure and let it do the work.
Women’s History Month and What Comes After
The American Black Journal conversation aired as Women’s History Month wound down, but the issues it examined don’t follow a calendar. The gender dynamics in Detroit’s Black churches have been present for generations, and the women in this conversation are doing the work of shifting them in real time, without waiting for formal structures to catch up.
Anthony, Ingram, and Nelson each came to this work through different paths and hold different positions within their respective congregations. What connects them is a shared refusal to treat the barriers they face as simply the way things are. They’re naming the barriers, building alternatives, and continuing to lead.
For anyone trying to understand how Detroit’s Black church community is navigating questions of gender and leadership, this conversation is worth the full hour. Henderson, as usual, gives his guests room to speak and follows the substance where it leads. The result is a portrait of three women doing serious institutional work in institutions that haven’t always made space for them.
That work is happening across the city. The “Black Church in Detroit” series is doing the useful thing of making it visible.